matt_ferrell (![[info]](http://p-stat.livejournal.com/img/userinfo.gif){kind=small} matt_ferrell) wrote,@ 2008-03-14 01:24:00 |
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GHOST! Don't believe everything you see on TV..
On the TV show "Ghost Hunters" on SciFi, awhile back one investigator the team brought in used a K2 meter to detect EMF Fields. The meter seemed to blink to questions, as if a "ghost" was talking through it.
Now, the meter has been in use for years by people looking for ghosts (even though it's not proven that ghosts give off an EMF reading, and that most people don't fully understand EM fields to say "this isn't natural, it must be paranormal!", but that's another topic.. hehe ), but since it was on TV, now everyone wants one of course.
K2 meter:
Recently on a message board, some people were talking about this episode and the meter.
I'm not too big on the K2 meter or this episode.
The meter:
#1: To turn it on and keep it on, you have to keep your finger pushed on the button to keep it activated. There's always that "what if" in terms of if your finger slipped off some/let loose some, etc. (when your finger does slip off, it causes a "spike" in the lights/readings for a second). It's kind of like a Ouija board, there's always that "what if" in terms of if someone else is moving the Planchette (intentional or not). You can modify it though to keep it on just by flipping the switch, if you wanna go the work.
#2: I just don't like seeing the lights in general. If I'm taking EMF readings, I want to be able to document a definite number (ex: "2.3 milliGauss in an area"), not a light (ex: "it turned yellow, so it could be 2.5-10 milliGauss, I don't know").
Manson Episode:
The episode this meter was used in was all around iffy anyway. It was based around the Manson murders. I haven't seen it in a while.. but that episode just didn't go well with me. It wasn't an investigation of the site of the murders, it was a few houses away. Also, the guy that owned the house had a movie made about his house and the murders. So him/the house being on TV was like him promoting his place/movie.
As for the K2 meter in that episode, like I mentioned, it's easy to manipulate. Not saying that's what happened with the "communication".. but even if unintentional, it could of happened.
Also the thermal footage of the room temperature doing down is said to be doctored.
More info on all that here. Or just do a Google search for: Ghost Hunters Manson doctored.
TV:
Don't trust everything you see on TV.
Now, most people know that most TV shows aren't real. Even these reality shows, they're still scripted to some level. And that goes for Ghost Hunters as well, it is scripted. I'm not saying all of it, the evidence and investigations could be legit, but all in all, it's scripted and edited. If you've worked with TV before, or have a keen eye and ear, you can catch these things in shows. (I don't mean to focus on Ghost Hunters / TAPS.. but really, it's the only show I tune in for when I do watch ghostly TV, so I'm using them as the main example).
When the TAPS crew goes up to a house or place and meets the owners at the door, there's a camera crew already inside filming as the owner opens the door for TAPS (and also filming as TAPS pulls up, etc). The owner says "Hi" like they just came to the door, but in reality, they've already come to the door to let the camera crew in and get ready. Now, okay. Maybe the camera crew arrived first and set up before the TAPS crew got there.. and this really IS the owners first time meeting them at the door. But still, not all is as it seems. Things were set up and ready and in place before the "meeting" scene we see. It didn't just happen.
And like at the St. Augustine lighthouse, one member, Kris, was in the cisterns and couldn't get out because no one was there to help boost her out. She COULD get out. She was being filmed from inside the cistern. The camera guy in their with her could of boosted her out. But it was scripted to look like she needed someone (Grant) to hop in and get her out. Then HE was stuck in there (even though a camera guy was still filming him from inside there), etc. No one was really stuck in there (except maybe the camera guy when everyone got out and it was just him?), but through the magic of TV, it's made to look like the members get stuck in there.
Speaking of the Lighthouse (the first time they came down here), in one episode, they came down here and investigated the Old Jail (Donna came with them), then in another episode they came down here again with the intent to investigate the lighthouse (and Donna wasn't with them). It was two different episodes, two different trips, or so it was made to seem. They had a meeting before hand in their office up there saying "we're going to Florida to investigate this lighthouse" and Donna was like "I wish I could make it, but I can't!". They made it seem like it was two different trips, and Donna just didn't come with them for one of them. But in reality, that scene was filmed after they had been here. They actually filmed the Old Jail, Spanish Military Hospital and Lighthouse while down here that one time. But they scripted and filmed the "meeting" part after the fact and threw it in at the start of the episode to make it look like different trips.
They also made it look like they came down here with the intent to investigate the lighthouse. But in reality, they weren't sure where all they were going to investigate while down here. They had some places in mind, but they had time to kill and weren't sure where all to tackle. Every place in St. Aug is "haunted", so they were at a loss. Jay called my cell off and on to get some tips. They had already filmed at the hospital and were wrapping up at the jail when he called one time looking for some ideas of where to go next. I mentioned a few places, and Jay was all for it.. then I got his producer on the phone and the TV side came out. Most of the places I mentioned, he was like "Welll, I want something that'll be eye candy for the TV viewers". So to balance things out, haunted and eye candy, I mentioned the lighthouse, telling them that might be their best bet. They seemed interested and said they'd look into getting in there. And obviously they did get in there. They invited me down to be in that episode also, but I couldn't make it.
Now, I'm not putting down the TAPS guys or anything at all. I'm not saying they're doing anything bad. I'm just opening peoples eyes some. It IS a TV show. Things are scripted, scenes are shot later and made to look like it was filmed at the time, retakes are done over and over, etc. But there are people who full out believe everything they see on Ghost Hunters (and other shows). And even get mad if someone says anything at all could be scripted in these types of shows. But I'm just letting you know that the magic of TV _IS_ there, just as it is on any TV show you watch. It's there when I've filmed TV shows, it's there when others film TV shows, and it's there when you watch the shows, whether they're 'reality shows' or not.. =)
I watch all these TV shows as entertainment (when I watch them at all). It can get interesting, and some can give some good tips here and there, but always watch with a grain of salt. All in all it's just entertainment scripted and edited for television.
On the TV show "Ghost Hunters" on SciFi, awhile back one investigator the team brought in used a K2 meter to detect EMF Fields. The meter seemed to blink to questions, as if a "ghost" was talking through it.
Now, the meter has been in use for years by people looking for ghosts (even though it's not proven that ghosts give off an EMF reading, and that most people don't fully understand EM fields to say "this isn't natural, it must be paranormal!", but that's another topic.. hehe ), but since it was on TV, now everyone wants one of course.
K2 meter:
Recently on a message board, some people were talking about this episode and the meter.
I'm not too big on the K2 meter or this episode.
The meter:
#1: To turn it on and keep it on, you have to keep your finger pushed on the button to keep it activated. There's always that "what if" in terms of if your finger slipped off some/let loose some, etc. (when your finger does slip off, it causes a "spike" in the lights/readings for a second). It's kind of like a Ouija board, there's always that "what if" in terms of if someone else is moving the Planchette (intentional or not). You can modify it though to keep it on just by flipping the switch, if you wanna go the work.
#2: I just don't like seeing the lights in general. If I'm taking EMF readings, I want to be able to document a definite number (ex: "2.3 milliGauss in an area"), not a light (ex: "it turned yellow, so it could be 2.5-10 milliGauss, I don't know").
Manson Episode:
The episode this meter was used in was all around iffy anyway. It was based around the Manson murders. I haven't seen it in a while.. but that episode just didn't go well with me. It wasn't an investigation of the site of the murders, it was a few houses away. Also, the guy that owned the house had a movie made about his house and the murders. So him/the house being on TV was like him promoting his place/movie.
As for the K2 meter in that episode, like I mentioned, it's easy to manipulate. Not saying that's what happened with the "communication".. but even if unintentional, it could of happened.
Also the thermal footage of the room temperature doing down is said to be doctored.
More info on all that here. Or just do a Google search for: Ghost Hunters Manson doctored.
TV:
Don't trust everything you see on TV.
Now, most people know that most TV shows aren't real. Even these reality shows, they're still scripted to some level. And that goes for Ghost Hunters as well, it is scripted. I'm not saying all of it, the evidence and investigations could be legit, but all in all, it's scripted and edited. If you've worked with TV before, or have a keen eye and ear, you can catch these things in shows. (I don't mean to focus on Ghost Hunters / TAPS.. but really, it's the only show I tune in for when I do watch ghostly TV, so I'm using them as the main example).
When the TAPS crew goes up to a house or place and meets the owners at the door, there's a camera crew already inside filming as the owner opens the door for TAPS (and also filming as TAPS pulls up, etc). The owner says "Hi" like they just came to the door, but in reality, they've already come to the door to let the camera crew in and get ready. Now, okay. Maybe the camera crew arrived first and set up before the TAPS crew got there.. and this really IS the owners first time meeting them at the door. But still, not all is as it seems. Things were set up and ready and in place before the "meeting" scene we see. It didn't just happen.
And like at the St. Augustine lighthouse, one member, Kris, was in the cisterns and couldn't get out because no one was there to help boost her out. She COULD get out. She was being filmed from inside the cistern. The camera guy in their with her could of boosted her out. But it was scripted to look like she needed someone (Grant) to hop in and get her out. Then HE was stuck in there (even though a camera guy was still filming him from inside there), etc. No one was really stuck in there (except maybe the camera guy when everyone got out and it was just him?), but through the magic of TV, it's made to look like the members get stuck in there.
Speaking of the Lighthouse (the first time they came down here), in one episode, they came down here and investigated the Old Jail (Donna came with them), then in another episode they came down here again with the intent to investigate the lighthouse (and Donna wasn't with them). It was two different episodes, two different trips, or so it was made to seem. They had a meeting before hand in their office up there saying "we're going to Florida to investigate this lighthouse" and Donna was like "I wish I could make it, but I can't!". They made it seem like it was two different trips, and Donna just didn't come with them for one of them. But in reality, that scene was filmed after they had been here. They actually filmed the Old Jail, Spanish Military Hospital and Lighthouse while down here that one time. But they scripted and filmed the "meeting" part after the fact and threw it in at the start of the episode to make it look like different trips.
They also made it look like they came down here with the intent to investigate the lighthouse. But in reality, they weren't sure where all they were going to investigate while down here. They had some places in mind, but they had time to kill and weren't sure where all to tackle. Every place in St. Aug is "haunted", so they were at a loss. Jay called my cell off and on to get some tips. They had already filmed at the hospital and were wrapping up at the jail when he called one time looking for some ideas of where to go next. I mentioned a few places, and Jay was all for it.. then I got his producer on the phone and the TV side came out. Most of the places I mentioned, he was like "Welll, I want something that'll be eye candy for the TV viewers". So to balance things out, haunted and eye candy, I mentioned the lighthouse, telling them that might be their best bet. They seemed interested and said they'd look into getting in there. And obviously they did get in there. They invited me down to be in that episode also, but I couldn't make it.
Now, I'm not putting down the TAPS guys or anything at all. I'm not saying they're doing anything bad. I'm just opening peoples eyes some. It IS a TV show. Things are scripted, scenes are shot later and made to look like it was filmed at the time, retakes are done over and over, etc. But there are people who full out believe everything they see on Ghost Hunters (and other shows). And even get mad if someone says anything at all could be scripted in these types of shows. But I'm just letting you know that the magic of TV _IS_ there, just as it is on any TV show you watch. It's there when I've filmed TV shows, it's there when others film TV shows, and it's there when you watch the shows, whether they're 'reality shows' or not.. =)
I watch all these TV shows as entertainment (when I watch them at all). It can get interesting, and some can give some good tips here and there, but always watch with a grain of salt. All in all it's just entertainment scripted and edited for television.
